You know, our imaginations can be pretty broad and vast.
So, really, there's no reason that Edgar Rice Burroughs' John Carter Of Mars has to always be seen as half-naked leftovers from Frazetta covers wandering around the Red Planet, despite what a generation of cheap paperback covers have taught us.
No, there is another way. For example...
In 1952 & 1953, Dell's Four Color did three issues of John Carter stories, all art (including covers) by Jesse March.
See, John can dress more like a Flash Gordon type...no loincloth or "battle harness" necessary (OK, that Thark is wearing a loincloth...but he has a cape!!)
Another huge surprise:
Deja Thoris can actually wear real clothing!! She doesn't have to parade around as transparent wank fodder by imagination-less illustrators who can't think of any other way to make her attractive than by having her parade around in a way that would make a porn star blush.
I'm not sure about that hair, though...
Hey, I'm not saying that this interpretation is necessarily the best one, the preferred one, the most correct one, the only acceptable one.
But good gosh, we (and by we, I mean you, Dynamite Comics) sure seem to have settled into a rut, a group-think that suggests that the only possible interpretation of John Carter is to get Dejah Thoris as naked as possible as often as possible and to make John himself straight barbarian, rather than interplanetary swashbuckler.
But they can wear clothes, guys, even if only once in awhile...
From Dell Four Color #375, #437 & #488 (1952-53)
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Thursday, September 24, 2015
Tales From The Quarter Bin--What 70s DC Should Have Taught 2012 Disney!
When DC picked up the rights to Edgar Rice Burroughs' characters from Gold Key in the 70s, they wasted no time expanding them empire. The At The Earth's Core back-up strip from Korak and the John Carter Of Mars back-up from Tarzan were very quickly spun off into their own title:
Note that DC took pains to tell readers what the hell this was:
They threw the creator's name on there, along with having his most famous creation "present" the book...and featured Tarzan just hangin' around for no reason on the cover:
They continued on the inside, as the first page continued to remind readers that this was an ERB book, and he created Tarzan, so you're going to love this, dammit!!
And every single issue had Tarzan plastered across the top of the cover, trying to beat the connection into peoples' heads:
Now, this didn't necessarily work: John Carter and David Innes only lasted 7 issues of Weird World, before they were shuffled off to Tarzan Family. The last 3 issues of Weird World featured Iron-Wolf, and then was cancelled (according to Denny O'Neill, because of a paper shortage!).
Contrast that to Disney's disastrous flop with the John Carter movie:
It's Disney's John Carter, you see...and you have to get out the magnifying glass to find ERB's name anywhere on the posters. And you'd think that they would be trumpeting "from the creator of freakin' Tarzan!"
Nope...hell, eventually they even dropped the "Of Mars" from the title. So if you weren't already familiar with the character, the marketing campaign pretty much gave you nothing (not to mention rendering the "JCM" logo meaningless...).
I'm not saying that Disney should have necessarily had a Joe Kubert-drawn Tarzan on the posters saying, "Yeah, I present this!" But a "from the creator of" might have moved a couple of more tickets, not to mention using ERB's actual name, and keeping the word Mars in the title.
Hell, why go small at all? Disney should have gone whole hog, pushing an "ERB Cinematic Universe." Carson of Venus movies. Pelluidar movies. Tarzan movies. Korak movies. Crazy-ass crossover movies!!
But for some reason, Disney seemed, well, ashamed of the pulpy origins of John Carter, and tried like hell to hide it. See how well that worked out?
Note that DC took pains to tell readers what the hell this was:
They threw the creator's name on there, along with having his most famous creation "present" the book...and featured Tarzan just hangin' around for no reason on the cover:
They continued on the inside, as the first page continued to remind readers that this was an ERB book, and he created Tarzan, so you're going to love this, dammit!!
And every single issue had Tarzan plastered across the top of the cover, trying to beat the connection into peoples' heads:
Now, this didn't necessarily work: John Carter and David Innes only lasted 7 issues of Weird World, before they were shuffled off to Tarzan Family. The last 3 issues of Weird World featured Iron-Wolf, and then was cancelled (according to Denny O'Neill, because of a paper shortage!).
Contrast that to Disney's disastrous flop with the John Carter movie:
It's Disney's John Carter, you see...and you have to get out the magnifying glass to find ERB's name anywhere on the posters. And you'd think that they would be trumpeting "from the creator of freakin' Tarzan!"
Nope...hell, eventually they even dropped the "Of Mars" from the title. So if you weren't already familiar with the character, the marketing campaign pretty much gave you nothing (not to mention rendering the "JCM" logo meaningless...).
I'm not saying that Disney should have necessarily had a Joe Kubert-drawn Tarzan on the posters saying, "Yeah, I present this!" But a "from the creator of" might have moved a couple of more tickets, not to mention using ERB's actual name, and keeping the word Mars in the title.
Hell, why go small at all? Disney should have gone whole hog, pushing an "ERB Cinematic Universe." Carson of Venus movies. Pelluidar movies. Tarzan movies. Korak movies. Crazy-ass crossover movies!!
But for some reason, Disney seemed, well, ashamed of the pulpy origins of John Carter, and tried like hell to hide it. See how well that worked out?
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Tuesday, August 5, 2014
The Best Cover You've Never Seen--Superman #417 (1986)
Cover by Eduardo Barreto.
This was an imaginary story, wherein infant Kal-El landed on Mars, not Earth, and totally Barsoomed it up.
If this isn't part of Grant Morrison's Multiversity, they just need to shut down the whole project and start over....
This was an imaginary story, wherein infant Kal-El landed on Mars, not Earth, and totally Barsoomed it up.
If this isn't part of Grant Morrison's Multiversity, they just need to shut down the whole project and start over....
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Sunday, March 25, 2012
Obviously, Too Much Alfredo Before Bedtime...
It's too bad that DC doesn't do Elsewhere stories anymore (unless, of course, you consider the whole nu52 an Elseworlds story...) Because I dreamed a doozy last night...
It opens with a big splash of Superman awakening in the Martian desert, and John Carter yelling from across the red sands, "Kaor, Kal-El!!"
This is why they don't let me write comics...
It opens with a big splash of Superman awakening in the Martian desert, and John Carter yelling from across the red sands, "Kaor, Kal-El!!"
This is why they don't let me write comics...
Thursday, September 15, 2011
Kaor, Kal-El!
So I'm in my local comics shoppe yesterday, and, as is my wont, I pick up the latest issue of this:
Yet, also released, on the very same day, is this:
OMG--two books, from two different companies, about the same character?!?
And yet, the world continued to spin on its axis. No riots at the comic shoppes, no mass hysteria, no cats and dogs living together.
So, as we ponder the post-lawsuit future of Superman, we should remember this: there's room for more than one interpretation.
And just to be clear, I'm not making any statement about the right or wrong of anyone's case, who owes whom what, the wisdom of our copyright system, or anything else like that. That's for wiser, more learned folks than I.
But comics fans tend to be small-c conservative (and I include myself in that description), and sometimes we react poorly to the prospect of a real change to the way things have always been. And when it is sometimes noted that one possible outcome of the lawsuit is that there might be two versions of Superman at different companies--one comprised of elements Siegel and Shuster own, the other still at DC comprised of elements they own--the possibility is greeted by a vague sense of panic. "They can't do that! There's always been one Superman, and he's always been at DC, and that's the way it should always be! It would be two confusing! It would destroy the character I love!" I know, because those same thoughts flit through my mind, t0o.
But we're more adaptable to change than we give ourselves credit for, and our imaginative capacity is far greater than we think it is. We can have two competing versions of John Carter Of Mars being published, and our brains don't implode. We can have Guy Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes AND Steven Moffat's Sherlock Holmes being out there simultaneously, and we can handle it (and the concept of multiple Holmes is so acceptable, CBS is developing its own pilot of a modernized Sherlock Holmes). We can have competing visions of Alice In Wonderland, or Dracula, or Battlestar: Galactica, and the republic will continue to stand. We can have a Batman cartoon that's two reboots separated from the current "real" Batman, but still love both versions.
Heck, even Kal-El himself is already subject to multiple versions of himself at DC. Right now the 3 nu52 magazines he's appearing in take place at three different time periods in his life, and as far as I can tell they might as well be three different characters. And, as by good pal Siskoid has been pointing out for the last year, there have been hundreds of variations of Supes at DC over the years.
So, if the lawsuit results in a "splitting" of Superman's rights, we shouldn't panic. We can live with, and even love, multiple Supermen, and the concept can even thrive and grow under such an arrangement. We'll survive, and the Man Of Steel will survive, just as John Carter has.
Yet, also released, on the very same day, is this:
OMG--two books, from two different companies, about the same character?!?And yet, the world continued to spin on its axis. No riots at the comic shoppes, no mass hysteria, no cats and dogs living together.
So, as we ponder the post-lawsuit future of Superman, we should remember this: there's room for more than one interpretation.
And just to be clear, I'm not making any statement about the right or wrong of anyone's case, who owes whom what, the wisdom of our copyright system, or anything else like that. That's for wiser, more learned folks than I.
But comics fans tend to be small-c conservative (and I include myself in that description), and sometimes we react poorly to the prospect of a real change to the way things have always been. And when it is sometimes noted that one possible outcome of the lawsuit is that there might be two versions of Superman at different companies--one comprised of elements Siegel and Shuster own, the other still at DC comprised of elements they own--the possibility is greeted by a vague sense of panic. "They can't do that! There's always been one Superman, and he's always been at DC, and that's the way it should always be! It would be two confusing! It would destroy the character I love!" I know, because those same thoughts flit through my mind, t0o.
But we're more adaptable to change than we give ourselves credit for, and our imaginative capacity is far greater than we think it is. We can have two competing versions of John Carter Of Mars being published, and our brains don't implode. We can have Guy Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes AND Steven Moffat's Sherlock Holmes being out there simultaneously, and we can handle it (and the concept of multiple Holmes is so acceptable, CBS is developing its own pilot of a modernized Sherlock Holmes). We can have competing visions of Alice In Wonderland, or Dracula, or Battlestar: Galactica, and the republic will continue to stand. We can have a Batman cartoon that's two reboots separated from the current "real" Batman, but still love both versions.
Heck, even Kal-El himself is already subject to multiple versions of himself at DC. Right now the 3 nu52 magazines he's appearing in take place at three different time periods in his life, and as far as I can tell they might as well be three different characters. And, as by good pal Siskoid has been pointing out for the last year, there have been hundreds of variations of Supes at DC over the years.
So, if the lawsuit results in a "splitting" of Superman's rights, we shouldn't panic. We can live with, and even love, multiple Supermen, and the concept can even thrive and grow under such an arrangement. We'll survive, and the Man Of Steel will survive, just as John Carter has.
Wednesday, July 21, 2010
Lazy Bullet-Point Catch-Up
Well, there were about a billion announcements last week, none of which I was really able to talk about here, because I was stuck in 1995.
So, how about a marathon of uninformed, ill-considered snarkiness?
...the very first thought to pop into my head was, "Maybe on that road home, he'll pass Superman going the other way, and kick Clark's ass for being such a dingus." We can only hope.
Meanwhile, here's a helpful (OK, not too helpful) primer of the T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents.
Thank you Dynamite!!!
So, how about a marathon of uninformed, ill-considered snarkiness?
- Wolverine: The Best There Is...seriously? That's the actual title for the series? It sounds more like a razor jingle...isn't Marvel at least remotely embarrassed to release a comic with that title?
- Let's see, Action Comics, and now Squire & Knight...you know, Marvel, all you had to do was find a way to not cancel Captain Britain and MI-13, and maybe you could have kept Paul Cornell around, creating cool things for you instead of them...
- You know, when I saw this placeholder cover...
- To those who approved of my Superman #701 bashing, these guys did it better, and in only three panels.
- Batman: The Dark Knight, the new ongoing by David Finch, puts Batman "into a world of demonology, dark arts, and mystery. He's the ultimate detective, faster, stronger and smarter than any villain, but now he faces creatures to whom logic and mortality don't apply."
- Wait a minute--Jonathan Hickman writing an Ultimate Comics Thor? You mean I'm actually going to have to read an Ultimate book?? Damn you Marvel--damn you to hell!! (Note: this title hasn't been confirmed by Marvel yet, so it could be just a rumor).
- I'm thrilled that DC is finally getting around to doing the T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents (what took so long?? You announced this a full year ago!!). And I actually think the concept makes a better fit for the DC Universe than Red Circle or Milestone--it's basically The Order done 1960s meets Checkmate, so it's got a healthy vibe ( but since the premise is heroes no one in the DC Universe knows, facing "global threats the rest of the DCU don’t even know exist," you wonder why it has to be in the DC Universe...).
Meanwhile, here's a helpful (OK, not too helpful) primer of the T.H.U.N.D.E.R. Agents.
- Satan Girl?? Yessss......
- A new John Carter comic? YYYYYYeeessssssssss.........
Thank you Dynamite!!!
Friday, June 11, 2010
Friday Night Fights--Barsoom Style!!
This current bout of Friday Night Fights is Minimum Clonage--we can't re-use any fighters during these twelve rounds. So let's check my list so far:
Spider-Man
Judomaster
Marl Kincaid
T.H.E. Cat
Namor
Mr. Kotter
Now, I know that I kinda sorta promised to use the Flying Nun this round if I didn't win last week. But A) you cats are soooo not ready for the Flying Nun (trust me), B) I was reading through my back issues of John Carter, Warlord Of Mars this week, and C) I haven't featured any man vs. animal fights lately--and don't forget, Slay Monstrobot is still the first two results when you Google "man on animal action!" Try it!!
So we'll postpone Sister Bertrille until a later week, as this week we feature a fight to the death on Mars (the real Mars, not "Mars-216" orbiting Alpha Centauri, which bears an extremely coincidental resemblance to the Vazquez Rocks, where Kirk fought a Gorn...sigh...this parenthetical aside has circled back and strangled itself with its own nerdiness, hasn't it??)
Anyway, as all good John Carter fights must, we start with his bride, the Princess Deja Thoris, held captive:
With them in the arena:
That, my friends, is a banth, a ten-legged Barsoomian lion, a savage eating machine that cannot be stopped.
So, bye-bye, Princess:
Oh course, the bad guys haven't reckoned with John Carter's extra strength as speed (the result of being an Earthman in Barsoom's lower gravity):




Score: Earth 1, Barsoom 0. Even Spacebooger applauds this outcome, and he was betting on the banth!!
Chris Claremont, Ernie Colon and Frank Springer give you a battle 75,654 times better than anything in that craptacular movie the showed on SyFy in John Cater, Warlord Of Mars #21 (1979).
Remember...if you don't go vote for your favorite fight this week, we might never get anything better than that terrible, wretched abomination of an adaptation of A Princess Of Mars. Oh, Pixar, please save us!!
Judomaster
Marl Kincaid
T.H.E. Cat
Namor
Mr. Kotter
Now, I know that I kinda sorta promised to use the Flying Nun this round if I didn't win last week. But A) you cats are soooo not ready for the Flying Nun (trust me), B) I was reading through my back issues of John Carter, Warlord Of Mars this week, and C) I haven't featured any man vs. animal fights lately--and don't forget, Slay Monstrobot is still the first two results when you Google "man on animal action!" Try it!!
So we'll postpone Sister Bertrille until a later week, as this week we feature a fight to the death on Mars (the real Mars, not "Mars-216" orbiting Alpha Centauri, which bears an extremely coincidental resemblance to the Vazquez Rocks, where Kirk fought a Gorn...sigh...this parenthetical aside has circled back and strangled itself with its own nerdiness, hasn't it??)
Anyway, as all good John Carter fights must, we start with his bride, the Princess Deja Thoris, held captive:
With them in the arena:
That, my friends, is a banth, a ten-legged Barsoomian lion, a savage eating machine that cannot be stopped.So, bye-bye, Princess:
Oh course, the bad guys haven't reckoned with John Carter's extra strength as speed (the result of being an Earthman in Barsoom's lower gravity):



Score: Earth 1, Barsoom 0. Even Spacebooger applauds this outcome, and he was betting on the banth!!Chris Claremont, Ernie Colon and Frank Springer give you a battle 75,654 times better than anything in that craptacular movie the showed on SyFy in John Cater, Warlord Of Mars #21 (1979).
Remember...if you don't go vote for your favorite fight this week, we might never get anything better than that terrible, wretched abomination of an adaptation of A Princess Of Mars. Oh, Pixar, please save us!!
Monday, June 7, 2010
Manic Monday--Kaor!!
Saturday night, Syfy (snicker) showed probably the most terriblest thing I have ever seen--an adaptation of Edgar Rice Burroughs' A Princess Of Mars. Man, did that suck on ice.
I know, I know, it wasn't the worst movie ever. But I looooove A Princess Of Mars, and the disparity between that book and that..."movie," that gulf of quality, is particularly painful to me. Plus, it didn't even take place on Mars!!!
But, the good side of the story is that the travesty inspired me to dig out my back issues of Marvel's John Carter, Warlord Of Mars. Ahhhh.....blessed relief.
Let me just say, there was nothing--nothing--in that movie that was 1/1,000,000th as cool as these scenes:
This cover alone was 156,758 times better than the abomination shown by Syfy.
Oh, Dave Cockrum....
Oh, Carmine Infantino (!!)...
Not only is this a cool scene...
...but it explodes into a four-armed ape wrestling with a giant, tentacled talking brain!!
Oh, Mike Vosberg...
I know Marvel can't release these in trade or Essentials because of the license and all (so it's a good thing I have them...although I can't find Annual #1, dammit). But it would be really nice if the Burroughs estate and GITCorp could do like Paramount and GITCorp did for Star Trek, releasing a DVD-Rom collection of all the Burroughs comics over the years across all the companies. Guys, I'd be first in line, and I'd pay cash.
Plus, why in the name of Barsoom isn't someone publishing a John Carter comic book right now? Huh?? Don't wait for the Pixar movie--do it NOW!!!
Anyway, lessons learned today: The "movie" sucked worse than humanly possible, the comics are great, someone find a way to republish them, and somebody make some new ones.
I know, I know, it wasn't the worst movie ever. But I looooove A Princess Of Mars, and the disparity between that book and that..."movie," that gulf of quality, is particularly painful to me. Plus, it didn't even take place on Mars!!!
But, the good side of the story is that the travesty inspired me to dig out my back issues of Marvel's John Carter, Warlord Of Mars. Ahhhh.....blessed relief.
Let me just say, there was nothing--nothing--in that movie that was 1/1,000,000th as cool as these scenes:
This cover alone was 156,758 times better than the abomination shown by Syfy.
Oh, Dave Cockrum....
Oh, Carmine Infantino (!!)...
Not only is this a cool scene...
...but it explodes into a four-armed ape wrestling with a giant, tentacled talking brain!!
Oh, Mike Vosberg...I know Marvel can't release these in trade or Essentials because of the license and all (so it's a good thing I have them...although I can't find Annual #1, dammit). But it would be really nice if the Burroughs estate and GITCorp could do like Paramount and GITCorp did for Star Trek, releasing a DVD-Rom collection of all the Burroughs comics over the years across all the companies. Guys, I'd be first in line, and I'd pay cash.
Plus, why in the name of Barsoom isn't someone publishing a John Carter comic book right now? Huh?? Don't wait for the Pixar movie--do it NOW!!!
Anyway, lessons learned today: The "movie" sucked worse than humanly possible, the comics are great, someone find a way to republish them, and somebody make some new ones.
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