Showing posts with label Joe Quesada. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Joe Quesada. Show all posts

Thursday, May 31, 2012

In An Alternate Universe, No One Listens To Joe Quesada

In this week's Amazing Spider-Man Annual #39, Peter Parker finds himself in a timeline where he (and hence Spider-Man) never existed. And one of the ways you can tell it's an alternate world? By the big-ass Times Square billboard:

Yup, a mere week after Marvel honcho Joe Quesada opined that Marvel had no female heroes capable of opening a "tent pole" summer movie, and that there were no actresses who could carry such a movie, we're shown that in at least one universe, he's pretty wrong, and there obviously is a market for such fare.

Which is especially ironic, since it's a book that has Quesada's name on it. Not that the "chief creative officer" actually reads all the books with his name on them, of course. But it seems pretty clear that Brian Reed & Lee Garbett never got the memo that women actors and women-led movies are poison.

In a perfect world, there would have been more lead time between Quesada's quote and this issue, so we could ponder if this was intended as a deliberate rebuttal to Quesada. But I'm content to just enjoy the coincidental irony.

Oh, and this alternate timeline has something for everyone:

Thursday, June 9, 2011

Great Moments In Bad Marketing

Proving that I'm not just harping on DC these days...

Axel Alonso, I know you're new to this editor-in-chief business...

...but maybe, just maybe, comparing your new big event to Civil War--the bloated, terribly late shipping, non-sensical, pretty-much-reviled-even-though-it-sold-a-lot-series--may not be the wisest idea.

Plus, it sorta denigrates Schism, doesn't it? Declaring it "the X-Men's Civil War" implies a) that it's not a terribly original idea; and b) that X-Men have to compare themselves to other events in order to sell. What's next--the X-Men's Secret Invasion? The X-Men's Armageddon 2001?

Maybe you should run the next ad by Joe Q for some advice before you sign your name to it...

Friday, October 8, 2010

Friday Night Fights--Iron Man #4 Style!!

Well, kids it's Friday Night Fights time, but I'm stuck in 2005 this week--namely, Marvel 2005 Week.

Which means I'm restricted to titles with an October 2005 cover date, because even the majesty of Friday Night Fights cannot interrupt on of my Marvel Weeks.

Which leaves us with this issue:

And our creators:

Long story short (or, rather short story really, really padded out to long, and then made short by me again): A racist militia punk has been given a stolen dose of the Extremis virus, and it's turned him into a "living bio-weapon." And he's kicking the crap out of Iron Man. Lets watch, shall we??





Yeah, that's all I got. Hey, it's the best fight from a limited set of choices. Sue me. Unless you're Spacebooger--he'd probably cream me in court.

More on Iron Man #4 (2005) after the "go vote" jump.

So, yeah, go vote. It'll make you feel better.

**Anyway, Extremis. After Avengers Disassembled, Marvel decided to do a soft reboot/relaunch on Iron Man. And they assigned it to Warren Ellis and Adi Granov. And it took FOREVER. Instead of Extremis, they probably should have called it Extremisly Slow.

This issue, number 4, was October 2005. #1 came out in January 2005. You do the math.

It got worse, as issue #5 didn't turn up until March 2006. The arc finally concluded in May, meaning it took 17 months to publish 6 issues. Not exactly the pace to set when you want to attract reader to your bold new update. Even worse, this wasn't a mini-series or a separate series--this was the main Iron Man title.

**As you may have noticed, Marvel made a huge deal recently about publishing Extremis as a motion comic. Now, I'm not a fan of motion comics--I just don't get the concept, frankly--but I appreciate the irony, because this arc, and this issue in particular, are among the most motionless every published.

This is the only work by Granov I've read, but it shares a flaw that I've noticed in many comics by artists who are more "painterly"--their work sure is purty, but they just don't demonstrate action or movement very well in the art. It's more like a series of still lifes, or random frames taken from a film. Example: the fight I reprinted above is from consecutive panels (except for the final panel). There's no "flow" to the action. (And, in fairness, I'll readily admit to being an artistic nincompoop, and sure, I've probably got bad taste. So what?)

The second reason I find the Motion Comic concept ironic here, is that this arc is particularly motionless. Entire issues are taken up by long conversations. Here, for one example, is a conversation between our racist bioweapon and a goth chick:





Wow, just imagine the excitement of that translated to motion...(but hey, at least Ellis took time off from having the lead characters constantly give portentous yet generic speeches presented as conversation...to having his villain and victim show us generic, portentous speechifying.)

**This was a soft reboot--we have Stark's origin updated to Afghanistan and al Qaeda, we meet some of the intellectual influences from his past who have never been mentioned before, we get extensive discourse about the role military research in Stark's empire as if he's never confronted these issues before.

But, it wasn't intended to do a Zero Hour, either (at least, I don't think so). Tony was still an Avenger, people referred to his fighting Fin Fang Foom, etc.

But despite the fact that in just the previous year Tony's identity had not only been publicly known but famously known, as he was U.S. Secretary of Defense, Ellis has everybody in this arc suddenly not know who Iron Man really is. People keep referring to "whoever the pilot is," renowned documentary makers who presumably did their homework have no idea that Stark is Iron Man...heck, here's an example:

And by Civil War, once again it's pretty clear that everyone has known for quite awhile. So...did everybody forget for awhile? Did Ellis forget? Or did he just not care?

If it was me, I'd blame the Scarlet Witch and quickly change the subject...

**Did I mention how motionless this comic was? At one point, Iron Man is powerless and trapped under a car...for 11 consecutive panels. 11. Here's just one:

Be grateful I didn't show you the other 10.

**Ellis does write Tony as still an incredible dickweed. An unstoppable living bio-weapon is headed for Washington, D.C. (why? We're never told, exactly, except "to turn back the clock"), and Tony is completely depowered. He know that undergoing the Extremis process will literally knock him out for 24-48 hours, during which time our perp will doubtless murder more innocent people.

And yet, he refuses to call for help, and he refuses to even call ahead and warn anyone:




Yes, Tony is willing to risk the lives of countless thousands, if not millions, just so he can send some ridiculous message--to whom, exactly?--that he's "the test pilot for the future."

Incredible. Bunghole.

**Just a pro-tip for our writers and editors: when you emblazon your cover with the fact that this is "Part 4 of 6," we can be pretty sure...

...that he's not dead. Really, really weak cliffhanger, is all I'm saying.

Then again, given that the next issue wouldn't be out for 5 months, maybe the real cliffhanger was whether the TITLE was dead...

ELSEWHERE IN THE MARVEL UNIVERSE:

Speaking of amazingly ridiculously impossibly late comics books:

As much as I ragged on Iron Man's Extremis arc for running a bit tardy, Daredevil: Father put it to shame. Written and drawn by Joe Quesada, inked by Danny Miki, issue one of what was advertised as a 5-issue mini-series debuted June 2004. Sixteen months later--16 months!!--#2 arrived in October 2005, and now it was a 6-issue series. So, in other words, in one and a quarter years it hadn't gotten any closer to the end!! (Obviously, part of that 16 months was spent analyzing exactly how many issues were needed, because why do that before you start?)

#3 & 4 actually followed relatively swiftly, each taking only a month to appear!! Problem solved, right?

Nope. #5 didn't show up until 13 months later, January 2007. #6 lurched across the finish line just a month later...so all-in-all, 32 months for 6 issues.

You ever wonder how, as editor-in-chief, Quesada can possibly nag people at Marvel about deadlines, when his work is consistently the most tardy and sloppiest by far? Or why he thought this was at all acceptable?? Rank hath its privileges, I guess...

Wednesday, April 7, 2010

Beating A Dead Horse

Because this still bothers the hell out of me years later...

Remember--Marvel had Peter Parker willingly make a deal with this guy:

Now, even if I grant that having Peter Parker single somehow magically makes for better comic stories than having him married, the way that which that was accomplished says something about Joe Quesada and JMS, doesn't it?

This is, after all, the Marvel Universe. So you could have had the Beyonder do it, or have Spidey use a Cosmic Cube, or Doctor Strange cast a spell, or a thousand other ways to save Aunt May.

But no, you guys opted to have a hero make a deal with "the black heart that pumps its putrid bile into the farthest corners of the universe." Because that's what heroes do, apparently.

Seriously, you guys thought this was the best way to accomplish your goal??

And that's why Joe Quesada is the last person on Earth who should be shepherding Marvel through the Heroic Age...

Sigh...

Blame my foray into Marvel 1985 for reminding me about this appearance of Mephisto in Fantastic Four #277 by Byrne, Byrne and Ordway...

Thursday, February 4, 2010

Foxes Guarding The Henhouse

Marvel says:

Marvel Comics is proud to announce The Heroic Age, the dawn of an exciting new era of heroism in the Marvel Universe! Beginning in May 2010 with the release of AVENGERS #1, The Heroic Age ushers in a brighter Marvel Universe and a bold new era for the world's greatest super heroes as they emerge from darkness with a renewed sense of hope and optimism...

[Joe Quesada said] "...the Marvel Universe is going to be a more optimistic place than we've seen in a quite awhile."


Ladies and gentlemen, the same talent that will be bringing you an exciting new era of heroism presents:

That's Daken, being reduced to pork rinds by Thor's lightning bolts. Because that's apparently the only way Thor could take down someone like Daken...the Heroic Age requires relatively harmless annoyances be taken down as violently and painfully and graphically as possible, I suppose. But they were heroic and brighter lightning bolts!!

Monsieurs and madames, the very same creators who will be bringing you a renewed sense of hope and optimism present:

See, Ares was ripped to shreds hopefully, and optimistically!!

Man, am I confident that these cats can create a Heroic Age, brighter and more hopeful. Yup, not a doubt in the world.

Of course, these are the same guys who made it "darker" in the first place. Funny how the press releases don't mention that, eh? It's as if the Marvel Universe became dark all by itself, while Bendis et. al. just sat around and watched.

Hey, Quesada, "the Marvel Universe is going to be a more optimistic place than we've seen in a quite awhile?" That's not setting the bar very high...because under your watch, the Marvel Universe has become the least optimistic place ever. You could print blank pages and it would be more optimistic.

Than again, this is coming from the moron who thought having Spider-Man sell his soul to Satan was a good idea and somehow improved the character. So obviously his sense of "heroic" might be a tad askew.

Once more, with feeling:

Brighter, shinier Marvel Universe. From these guys. Good luck with that.


Monday, October 12, 2009

Manic Monday Bonus--Working Girls!!

An open plea to Joe Quesada:

Please, Joe, if you can revive Night Nurse in a new incarnation, and bring back Marvel's backlist non-hero female characters in Models, Inc....

What, you can't even give her a full-sized desk??Then you can as sure as heck revive Tessie The Typist.

Thank you.

Special creepy note...after 23 issues of turning men into drooling monkeys, Tessie The Typist was reborn in issue #24 as:

That bully needs to pick a costume style...he's all over the place!!Which is just to damn weird to contemplate. Fortunately for the confused libidos of 1949 men, Tiny Tessie was immediately canceled after only 1 issue, and the world was once again safe for working women being treated as sex objects. I shudder to think what Mad Men would be like if Tiny Tessie caught on...


Saturday, April 11, 2009

The Sincerest Form Of Flattery Will Get You Nowhere

It wasn't even two months ago that I noted how much more quickly Marvel's of-course-coincidental recycling of DC ideas was occurring. I even noted, tongue in cheek, that the process would be down to weeks soon.

Damn my prophetic soul.

In his latest Cup of Joe, Marvel Plagiarist-In-Chief Joe Quesada announce a new series starting in July:


This also seems like the perfect time to announce our Marvel Divas limited series, beginning in July, from Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa and Tonci Zonjic, featuring some of the Marvel Universe’s greatest female heroes in a way you haven’t seem them before. I’ll let Roberto explain:

“The idea behind the series was to have some sudsy fun and lift the curtain a bit and take a peep at some of our most fabulous super heroines. In the series, they're an unlikely foursome of friends--Black Cat, Hell Cat, Firestar, and Photon--with TWO things in common: They're all leading double-lives and they're all having romantic trouble. The pitch started as "Sex and the City" in the Marvel Universe, and there's definitely that "naughty" element to it, but I also think the series is doing to a deeper place, asking question about what it means...truly means...to be a woman in an industry dominated by testosterone and guns. (And I mean both the super hero industry and the comic book industry.) But mostly it's just a lot of hot fun. ”
In July. Which, by an amazing coincidence, is only one month after the debut of DC's Gotham City Sirens #1.


GOTHAM CITY SIRENS #1

Written by Paul Dini
Art and cover by Guillem March
Variant cover by JG Jones
This all-new series features the bad girls of Gotham City! Catwoman, Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn are tired of playing by other people's rules regardless of which side of the law they're on. These tough ladies have a new agenda that's all their own, and they'll use any means necessary to pursue it.
Sirens? Divas? Yeah, those are nothing alike.

More comics about women characters is a good thing. But sheesh--does Marvel have to be so bloody transparent in its "sincerest form of flattery?"

House of Somebody Else's Ideas is more like it.

Sunday, August 3, 2008

An Open Letter To Joe Quesada

Regarding Spider-Man: Brand New Day--Extra!! #1.

Mr. Quesada (may I call you Joe?), do you actually read the comics that go out with your name on them? Because I simply can't believe you let this one go through.

Now note, on the cover, this comic is "Rated A," which, according to Marvel's own website, means the books in question is "appropriate for ages 9 and up."

How then, do we explain this scene, wherein Spider-Man is mocking the gangster/villain Hammerhead for having a flat head?

Really.

So in an A rated book, it's alright to make none-too-veiled references to terrifically bad (not to mention demeaning) jokes about oral sex?

And to do this in a Spider-Man book, which is probably particularly likely to be picked up by kids?

And before you or your minions try to claim it's somehow not a reference to the distasteful fellatio joke, explain why Spider-Man gives us the sotto voce "You'll get it when you're older."

I'm not a prude, Joe. But I don't believe that a comic you've approved for nine-year-olds is an appropriate place for bl#$%^b jokes. And somehow, I don't believe that Peter Parker would stoop to that type of humor, either. Then again, since you had him sell his soul to the devil, maybe his standards in humor have become corrupted. Is that why we have Brand New Day--so Spider-Man can make coy references to sex acts in front of the children??

So congratulations to Joe Kelly (writer) and Stephen Wacker, Tom Brennan, Tom Brevoort, and you (all listed as various levels of editor on this story). You've dragged Spider-Man down to the level of a sniggering Hustler cartoon. Thanks a lot.

snell

Saturday, April 19, 2008

The Stupidest Answer to a Question EVER

From the Cup O' Joe Panel at the NYC Comic Con, as reported by Newsarama (Quesada is, of course, Joe Quesada...McCann is Jim McCann of Marvel marketing:

A fan started by complimenting Dan Slott for his approach to continuity, before moving on to a question/complaint about "One More Day," specifically that Spider-Man's identity being public didn't last as long as this fan apparently would have liked.

Quesada clarified that he never said it was going to last 10 years of 5 years, just that it wasn't going to be undone at the end of Civil War and that it did indeed have lasting implications. "I'm not an elected official, at the end of the day," said Quesada.

McCann added "If Spider-Man hadn't been unmasked, 'One More Day' wouldn't have happened, and then 'Brand New Day' wouldn't have happened, which is still going on, so we're still feeling the effects of Spider-Man's unmasking."

So, let's see if I understand this reasoning: Because we undid what we originally did, what we originally did is still effecting things. Because we undid it, and we haven't un-re-did it yet

I think a few galaxies just imploded thanks to the gravitational pull of that pile The sheer illogic made Spock cry 300 years in the future...of illogic. I guess that's why McCann is in marketing...

And while I'm on the subject...now that we've had three full months and 12 full issues of Brand New Day, I'd like to mention that we have yet to see a single story or plotline that we couldn't have had if Mary Jane were still married to Peter. Not a one. So, good thing it was so dad-blamed important to destroy 20 years of continuity, eh? Somebody wake me when swinging single Peter actually has a date or something...

Thursday, January 17, 2008

I Have Seen the Light!!

You know what? Joe Quesada was right all along. And I'm man enough to admit that I was wrong.

And all the proof we need is in this story:

Spidey could NEVER fight ninjas in gargoyle masks if he were hitched!I mean, just think about it:
  • Peter Parker gives mouth-to-mouth to J. Jonah Jameson. That story NEVER could have happened had Peter ever been married (let's face it, Tiger--MJ doesn't swing that way).

  • Spider-Man battles a super-powered hood who wants to control New York's criminal families...something Spidey NEVER could have done if he had to worry about maintaining an adult relationship!

  • Spider-Man saves passers-by from a falling billboard, and they blame him. Wow, not only is it a BRAND NEW DAY, but it should be completely obvious to anybody that had Peter Parker and Mary Jane been married, he NEVER could have done that!!
So Quesada was right--there are literally millions of stories Spider-Man stories that couldn't be told if Peter Parker were still married!! And the first story line out of the gate is the best example possible of why such a drastic and radical move had to be made!! Mea culpa, Marvel, mea culpa.

The story I am very unfair to is Amazing Spider-Man #547. I'm sorry, Dan Slott and Steve McNiven, it really was a fun story. You're just caught in the fallout, dudes.

Saturday, December 29, 2007

One More Post

Watch as everything good about our hero is crushed out of existenceOK, so I know I've already made my position clear. And you are all probably tired of me ripping on One More Day.

But I've got a few more things I've got to rant about. No more about how idiotic and offensive the general idea was, though. This time I'll focus on how sloppy and abysmal the actual execution was.

A) Does anyone at Marvel have any sense of irony? The last page is a list of testimonials on how great JMS's run on Amazing Spider-Man was...in a story that effectively wiped out what, 85% of the stories he wrote? 90%? 95%?

B) Speaking of which, this is stunning--this is a Crisis on Infinite Earths level of continuity reboot, which Marvel generally hasn't done. Yet it affects only one character. It's as if DC had re-done only Superman's continuity after Crisis, while everybody else stayed the same.

Aside from Harry Osborn remaining alive (which you think would impact all the Goblin stories post-Harry's death, not to mention Norman and Thunderbolts), what about all the myriad Marvel heroes and villains who knew Peter's identity? Did Mephisto wipe out only the grand Super Hero Registration Act revelation of Spidey's secret ID? What about Daredevil, or Venom? Does Norman Osborn still know?

Speaking of which, what about the Civil War? Spider-Man revealed his ID to Tony Stark BEFORE the Civil War...did that still happen? Do the rest of the "New" Avengers still know his secret? Did Spider-man still play such a pivotal part in the Civil War? If he's unregistered and still super-heroing, well, the head of the Thunderbolts and maybe Tony Stark know his civilian identity...so much for keeping Aunt May safe, eh? Or has EVERYTHING been wiped out?

I'm not sure why such an extensive revision of history was needed (and geez, if Mephisto has that much power over time and space, wouldn't he own everybody's soul by now?). Hopefully Quesada will give us a flow chart or something. But just you wait--with our luck it will turn out that all of Spider-man's recent history EXCEPT for "Sins Past" will have been wiped out...

Of course, none of this ridiculously confusing reboot would have necessary had Quesada merely had the courage of his convictions and actually ended the Peter/Mary Jane marriage rather than pretending it had never happened.

C) Just so no one thinks that I'm letting JMS off the hook here, let's note the sheer hypocrisy of his infamous blog post: He was going to take his name off the last two issues of OMD, but he didn't because he "didn't want to sabotage Joe or Marvel..." Fine, except rather than going through with the "silent" protest of removing his name, he publicly calls out Quesada and Marvel on his blog. So that's less sabotaging, JMS?

Also, why is it that whenever JMS writes an arc that proves intensely unpopular with the fans, it always turns out to be the fault of the editors? Just askin'...

D) Hey, Joe Quesada: just how slow do you draw, man? Given the number of panels that were photocopies in this issue, I shudder to think when this storyline would have finished had you actually pencilled EVERY page...

E) Remember the marketing tagline, "What would you do...with one more day?" Apparently, the answer is "Sit around a dark motel room for 24 hours." And judging by the lighting effects on page 10, spend most of that time frozen in one position.

F) Well, at least this means Mary Jane won't turn out to be a Skrull. Doesn't it? Then again, I must admit it would be a very Mephisto-y turn if he saved "Aunt May" only to have Peter shattered when she turns out to be a Skrull. OK, now I'm kind of rooting for that...

G) Remember how a large chunk of Part 3 consisted of Mephisto taking Peter around and showing him alternate versions of Peter? What exactly was the point of that? By showing Peter how unhappy his life could have turned out without Mary Jane, isn't he actually making it less likely that Peter would accept his deal?

And really, was there any reason, besides sucking still more money out of us, to have this be a 4-parter? They could have dumped the reprints (of only half of stories!!) and Handbook pages, condensed down the events of 1 & 2 into one issue, cut out the "Possible Peter tour" and done a little less Xeroxing, and we've got a 2 issue story here. Yeah, it would still suck, but I'd be $8 less broke.

All right, that's enough. I've got to sleep now.

UPDATE: After posting I saw that Caleb had previously posted similar thoughts on OMD, especially my points A & B. Sorry, bro. I promise I didn't steal...just warped minds thinking alike.

Saturday, December 1, 2007

What the #$%^--One More Day

Hiya, kids!!Monstrobot here.

I just want to praise Marvel Comics for discovering new depths of evil.

I refer, of course, to the deliciously abysmal One More Day story line running (ever so slowly)through the Spider-Man books.

Sensational is not the word that I would use...Oh, it's not just because the story is abominably bad, and slow, and drawn out, and whiny, and self-pitying, and portentous, and...

And it's evil not only because they're jumping the entire Marvel universe through ridiculous hoops just because the head honcho believes that it's not cool to have your hero in a healthy adult relationship. Thank you for spreading the message that marriage is bad and boring, Joe Quesada.

And it's not one of the 105 other reasons this storyline is evil and diseased (evil note to Quesada: if you want to get rid of Mary Jane, why not just kill her off?? Because you want to give fans hope that they'll be reunited someday...that's the exact same plan as Mephisto, you cheeky devil! You don't even have the courage of your convictions!! How brilliantly evil!)

No, what's really, tremendously, soul-staggeringly vile about this business is that Marvel is charging $3.99 per issue for this. And what does the fan get for that extra $1? Half a reprint.

That's right. You can't even fill the back of the book with a full story. Just 1/2 a story.

And the beauty part? You don 't continue that reprint in the next issue!! Instead, you give them a blurb telling the fan that if they want to finish the story, they have to go buy an omnibus collection!! Yup, kids, you just put out an extra dollar for a comic, and you can only finish the story if you go spend $75 list for a hardback collection. Bwahahahahahaha! Or...you can spend $60 to read it digitally online!!! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Man, Dr. Doom wishes he could be that evil. Even Mephisto is applauding your vileness, Marvel. You make a humble Monstrobot like myself hang my head in shame at how little real evil I have done.

Well played, Joe Quesada, you magnificent bastard!

Saturday, November 3, 2007

Free Advice For Joe Quesada

Maybe, just maybe, you wouldn't be months behind schedule in drawing "One More Day" if, just maybe, you didn't insist on drawing every molocule of every strand of webbing. Not to mention the 7 times it's wrapped around his left hand, the 4 times it loops around his right, etc. It adds soooo much to the story, after all...

...so little time...So much webbing...

Just a thought.

Amazingly detailed, and therefore incredibly late double-super splash is from Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man #24. Don't expect the next chapter anytime soon...

Wednesday, October 24, 2007

One More Day? Two More Months

Well, another event is delayed. Marvel's announced that chapter 3, which was due next week, has been delayed until 11/28, whereas chapter won't be out until after Christmas, 12/27. No word is given on new dates for the post-OMD 3-times-a -month Amazing Spider-Man, but obviously it will be delayed, as the first 3 issues were due 12/5, 12/12, and 12/19

It's too bad that Marvel's editors can't find an artist who can meet a deadline...oh, wait, never mind.

Seriously, with an event this gargantuan (in Spider-Man terms, at least, which makes it gargantuan in Marvel terms), I find it inconceivable they could allow it to run this far behind. Once it became apparent that Joe Quesada couldn't meet the monthly schedule, why not have some hot young artist leap in to help out, with half an issue here or there? Obviously, Marvel's not alone in this regard, as DC has been delaying books, and preempting storylines, right left and center of late. But given the prominence and publicity of this story, you'd think Marvel would have done everything possible to get it out on time. Guess not.

Meanwhile, check out this poster:And Paul Lynde is the Secret Square...Man I REALLY hope it's Valkyrie...