While watching last week's episode of Fringe, I found myself somewhat bemused by the opening credits. Here, verbatim, was what was appearing on-screen over the opening scenes:
Co-Producer
Tamara Isaac
Co-Producer
Tanya Swerling
Producers
Zack Stentz
Ashley Edward Miller
Producer
Kathy Lingg
Producer
Robert M. Williams, Jr.
Supervising Producer
Josh Singer
Supervising Producer
Jeff Vlaming
Supervising Producer
Reid Shane
Consulting Producer
Akiva Goldsman
Consulting Producers
Alex Kurtzman
Roberto Orci
Co-Executive Producer
David Wilcox
Co-Executive Producer
Joe Chappelle
Executive Producer
Bryan Burk
Executive Producer
J.H. Wyman
Executive Producer
Jeff Pinkner
Executive Producer
J.J. Abrams
Yup. Eighteen producers. 18.
Now, I know it's longtime Hollywood practice to toss around producer credits like Halloween candy, as a way to keep the minions happy. And it's not like I've done any kind of comparison with other shows. Still, 18? That's got to be some kind of record, right?
Just think--this one episode of Fringe had 16 more producers than Citizen Kane or Casablanca or The Godfather--heck, it has 12 more producers than those three classics combined!!!!
Fringe is certainly one of the most-produced shows on television. Hell, this episode had the living hell produced out of it!! When they give out the Emmy next year for "Most-Produced Show," they're a shoo-in!!
There's many a series where I'm watching an episode, and I turned to my friends and say, "Man, this show needed more Co-Executive producing!!" That will never happen with Fringe!!
And hasn't that always been one of the surest signs of quality--having more producers than cast members?? Hey, maybe that's it--each actor has their own personal producer!!
And all these producers have been eminently successful at keeping the show from being an X-Files wannabe. Hell, this season they've already given us shape-shifting alien assassins, our heroine kidnapped and returned sans memory, underground dwelling hybrid freaks who eat people--none of which is even vaguely reminiscent of the X-Files!!!
Still, one can't help but wonder what would happen if they had just a couple of fewer producers, and spent some of that money on, oh, I don't know...writers, maybe???
Nahhhh.....
Just in case you need convincing, here's the "cast of thousands" line-up of producers from the episode in question...
Co-Producer
Tamara Isaac
Co-Producer
Tanya Swerling
Producers
Zack Stentz
Ashley Edward Miller
Producer
Kathy Lingg
Producer
Robert M. Williams, Jr.
Supervising Producer
Josh Singer
Supervising Producer
Jeff Vlaming
Supervising Producer
Reid Shane
Consulting Producer
Akiva Goldsman
Consulting Producers
Alex Kurtzman
Roberto Orci
Co-Executive Producer
David Wilcox
Co-Executive Producer
Joe Chappelle
Executive Producer
Bryan Burk
Executive Producer
J.H. Wyman
Executive Producer
Jeff Pinkner
Executive Producer
J.J. Abrams
Yup. Eighteen producers. 18.
Now, I know it's longtime Hollywood practice to toss around producer credits like Halloween candy, as a way to keep the minions happy. And it's not like I've done any kind of comparison with other shows. Still, 18? That's got to be some kind of record, right?
Just think--this one episode of Fringe had 16 more producers than Citizen Kane or Casablanca or The Godfather--heck, it has 12 more producers than those three classics combined!!!!
Fringe is certainly one of the most-produced shows on television. Hell, this episode had the living hell produced out of it!! When they give out the Emmy next year for "Most-Produced Show," they're a shoo-in!!
There's many a series where I'm watching an episode, and I turned to my friends and say, "Man, this show needed more Co-Executive producing!!" That will never happen with Fringe!!
And hasn't that always been one of the surest signs of quality--having more producers than cast members?? Hey, maybe that's it--each actor has their own personal producer!!
And all these producers have been eminently successful at keeping the show from being an X-Files wannabe. Hell, this season they've already given us shape-shifting alien assassins, our heroine kidnapped and returned sans memory, underground dwelling hybrid freaks who eat people--none of which is even vaguely reminiscent of the X-Files!!!
Still, one can't help but wonder what would happen if they had just a couple of fewer producers, and spent some of that money on, oh, I don't know...writers, maybe???
Nahhhh.....
Just in case you need convincing, here's the "cast of thousands" line-up of producers from the episode in question...
Hmmmmm-- Fringe--
ReplyDeleteThis is my favorite TV show yet to see.
I'm doing small marathons on Supernatural and this one will be next once I'm finished :)
I think they need to add a Producing Producer to the show.
ReplyDeleteI don't have a problem with it :)
ReplyDeleteAnthony--you mean to imply my blog is actually produced? Best compliment I've ever gotten.
ReplyDeleteChris--don't let my snarkitude scare you a way...it's not a bad show, quite entertaining at times. I am frustrated that it's not better, especially with 18 highly paid executives to oversee things.
Well, as Wikipedia points out, "nowadays a producer is almost synonymous with a writer". I suspect many of them had some input into the writing process and very few had traditional producing roles.
ReplyDeleteNimbus--perhaps true, but 18 is still pretty excessive...by contrast, last week's Dollhouse had 7 producers listed.
ReplyDeleteAnd if they really had that many writers, well, you'd think they would have better writing...
Oh, I agree that 18 is excessive! I think the old saying "Too many cooks...(etc etc)" might apply though. More "writers" on an episode doesn't mean it'll be better.
ReplyDeleteBTW, I've never seen Fringe and so I can't really comment on how much value these 18 producers bring to the show.
The Simpsons did it first. I've never counted, but there are a buttload of producers in the opening credits.
ReplyDeleteGood call on the Simpsons, as the latest new episode listed 30 (yes, 30) producers. That's more than one producer per minute of air time...
ReplyDeleteMaybe it's a Fox thing.
Still, I'm more inclined to forgive the Simpsons, because they're still producing at a higher quality than Fringe...