tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3992648596835959526.post2535721245336622696..comments2024-03-22T21:30:12.908-04:00Comments on Slay, Monstrobot of the Deep!!: The Other Shoesnellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06181997862745538999noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3992648596835959526.post-77244078696964607222008-05-01T11:46:00.000-04:002008-05-01T11:46:00.000-04:00I don't hate Iron Man. I hate the small band of "s...I don't hate Iron Man. I hate the small band of "superstar" hacks that made him what he is today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3992648596835959526.post-38048043035694988202008-04-30T18:03:00.000-04:002008-04-30T18:03:00.000-04:00I don't think they were going to push him to the l...I don't think they were going to push him to the level of a villain. It's just a very poor and botched storyline that got out of hand. <BR/><BR/>Individual issues of Iron Man, Captain America, and various crossover appearances IM had in the Sub-Mariner and World War Hulk series last year made "heroic" sense on IM's part, but only if you grant a LOT of leeway. You have to swallow Stark's side of the Civil War as well as swallowing the other side of it, and neither point of view makes a heck of a lot of sense in the end.<BR/><BR/>I haven't read any mainline Marvels since then because I see no end in sight with the CW storyline. Until Marvel's heroic characters can interact again without this awful mess hanging over their heads, I will not buy their mainline books.<BR/><BR/>I have no idea how they will end this storyline. I don't think they can without a Crisis-level reboot of the entire MU.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02790510518220086999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3992648596835959526.post-77997728829116648612008-04-30T17:33:00.000-04:002008-04-30T17:33:00.000-04:00This is a very interesting theory. I wonder, as Ma...This is a very interesting theory. I wonder, as Mark noted, if at some point Marvel was truly going to push Tony to that level of villain, but what with him being a major character in the MU and a big time film coming out, they decided at the halfway point to take it in a new direction and tried at every turn to justify his actions.<BR/><BR/>I think it would be interesting if this was still the case; at this point though, the only way it wouldn't both a.) prove critics who said pro-reg were obviously the villains RIGHT and b.) do more damage to the character than has already been done is to make him a Skrull (which I guess could still happen).<BR/><BR/>I can also completely buy this as sloppy writing on Bendis' part; the writer obviously knew how Civil War was going to go and could have just constructed that entire speech to add some more credibility to the character once the ball got rolling.<BR/><BR/>-MMatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05910006954704396801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3992648596835959526.post-36237818565357720282008-04-30T15:35:00.000-04:002008-04-30T15:35:00.000-04:00This is why I get my Iron Man fix from Marvel Adve...This is why I get my Iron Man fix from Marvel Adventures. It doesn't suck. Then again, IM's gone downhill since Grell got in there and had Tony drop the secret identity in some backstory to save a puppy in the road. Not even close to Spidey's umasking-that-never-happened-now. (Anyone else think Mini-Marvels makes more sense nowadays?) <BR/><BR/>No writer since (granted I dropped the title when Tony became Secretary of Defense, and I'm considering taking some of the issues between Grell and SoD out of the collection entirely to make some space in my boxes) has done any better. I tried NA, but dropped THAT just before Civil War. Oddly, it was Luke Cage suddenly decided to swear that broke the camel's back. Odd, because of everything else wrong, past the first arc, but I have a Heroes for Hire that gives a reason for him to not swear. So I'm not surprised to read comments from your blogs that Bendis ignores continuity. Maybe he should stick with the Ultimate Universe?<BR/><BR/>-ShadowWing TronixAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3992648596835959526.post-43671953002571575002008-04-30T10:14:00.000-04:002008-04-30T10:14:00.000-04:00I wonder how valid the "don't screw with the chara...I wonder how valid the "don't screw with the character when a movie is coming out" theory is these days. <BR/><BR/>They've gone topsy turvy on Hulk. They've got Batman R.I.P. ready to run when Dark Knight breaks, and Morrison probably isn't the guy you want writing the book anyway if you're expecting some influx of newbies anyway.<BR/><BR/>I suspect that, given the number of singles that are sold these days, the movie makers just don't care what the writers/artists do there. And apparently, the comics creators aren't too worried about it (which is a good thing, methinks).snellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06181997862745538999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3992648596835959526.post-73009601878484885282008-04-30T09:45:00.000-04:002008-04-30T09:45:00.000-04:00I get the sense Marvel was at one time serious abo...I get the sense Marvel was at one time serious about making Tony Stark/Iron-Man a Marvel villain (ala Hal Jordan in the mid-90's DCU), but then backed away from the edge of the cliff (which I suspect had something to do with the Iron-Man movie).<BR/><BR/>I don't read many current Marvel titles these days, but the Tony Stark appearing in the Captain America title seems properly heroic and non-fascistic. Plus, anyone with an I.Q. over 100 sounds like a fascist when Mark Millar is writing him (in Mark's world, smart people KNOW EVERYTHING), so I don't really see the "Tony as Murderous Manipulator" thread going anywhere...at least for now. Maybe once the hoo-hah from the movie dies down, they'll resume their "Tony as Anti-Christ" storyline.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com